The story of Elizabeth Holmes has everything: money, fame, power, a trial, a movie, a prison, and the promise of changing medicine.

It is also about ambition and deception.

At the center is a young woman who drops out of Stanford University and creates a company, Theranos, that she claims can prick your finger, take a minimal amount of blood, and tell you everything about your life.
That was the beginning. She was lionized as another Steve Jobs in black and the youngest self-made female billionaire. Powerful men like George Shultz, Henry Kissinger, Rupert Murdoch, and others joined the board and invested.

Then came the journalism. John Carreyrou published a series of articles in The Wall Street Journal saying the test didn’t work and published a bestselling book, Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup. Media coverage followed.

Then there was a trial, and Elizabeth Holmes was convicted of fraud and went to prison in 2023.

But before she goes to prison, she invites a Canadian television performer, Nathan Fielder, and a director, Lawrence Oppenheim, to come live with her, her partner, Billy Evans, and their two children.
The documentary, You Can See Everything, released in mid-October, has created a sensation and is being talked about today for the Oscars.

A huge amount of press has been devoted to the film and Elizabeth Holmes.

She is in prison. John Carreyrou has moved to The New York Times.

Here is a conversation with her in 2015, before much of this… before Carreyrou’s investigation, before the trial, and obviously before she went to prison.